. >> that's the first nice thing you said about barack obama. >> i don't agree with him, i don't like his licies, don't like the directions. >> and the season bringing up. stop it, the guy came from nothing ands' president. >> how many times have i told you that, hear the love. >> i don't, i don't hate him. i hate his policies, but i will say this, you know, this is a guy who's committed to that agenda. he believes in it. >> and you might even consider instead, charlie, saying that you dislike his policies rather than hating-- >> i hate his policies. >> what' the point. >> and, but charlie has made-- >> and great human being, although with politics-- >> neil, without doing any additional finger pointing, we ought to acknowledge t effect what you're doing with the special and interviewing american heroes is also praisi public servants, people whose jobs and careers is to serve us, is to work for us, and charles, for example-- >> that's not what i said. >> and i heard you, you said public service. >> and many of these people are public servants and working for the united states governme